Originally Posted by
Semisane
I've never tried Swiss. But I shoot pretty near a case of GOEX a year. Love the stuff and could live very easily with never shooting a sub. I too like that white cloud `cause you
know you're shooting a muzzle loader when you can't see your target after the shot.

As for clean up, I find black powder easier to clean than any of the subs.
I agree 100%
I have tried all the major subs and bH209 as well, and to me they are what they are subs...I really think there's a place for them all but I am going to shoot only REAL BLACK from now own....And enjoy the smoke show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!