well i shot this buck on 12-18 around 9:20..last day of the 2nd gun season here in ohio. First deer with a gun! been hunting for 15 years and have always hunted with a bow..anyways i shot him at 35 yards with my H&R 12GA. slug gun using lightfield sabot slugs. Solid 8Pt with good mass. Merry christmas to me lol