Originally Posted by ButchA

Thanks... Also, ladder stands won't go, "Sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiippp" on the truck of a tree like a climber can.

I loved that Summit Viper X4 that I had. I could go anywhere with it, and even nod off to sleep in it. BUT... I had one incident with it, where, I was in a straight tree and everything was set. I didn't do anything (not that I remember) or do something stupid, but, the whole seat section of the Viper X4 slipped about 8" down the tree, causing my knees to hit the bar in front, and crunching me up into a ball. I never figured out why, what, or how, but the whole thing skidded down the tree on me.