$500 is a lot of bread for a gun that I could have probably bought new for less, but a new unfired in the box from fox ridge makes it a sweet deal (atleast that is what I keep telling myself!). I know my 58 Big Boar is a shooter. It throws PRB in 1 ragged hole in the target at 50 yards all day and it has the 1:48 twist. I want to shoot it further but the shooting club I am a member of closes the range beyond 50 yards during hunting season due to public hunting land behind the range. Anyway I can't wait to shoot the new Renegade. I have a 50 + 54 + and now two 58's (also have 2 GM drop in barrels for them).