of course 3 under with a high draw is going to be easier to follow. Essentually you are using the point of aim method. (in my opinion the easiest for someone to understand and pick up relatively fast). It shortens your point on mark, depending on how long your arrows are, falling somewhere around the 20 yard mark. You can alter this by shortening (if you have room to do so) or lengthening your arrow shaft. Like Art said, the longer you shoot with some kind of reference, be it split vision, gap, or point of aim, the less you will rely on it and eventually go full tilt to shooting " instinctive" . However with no reference point to start from, the learning curve is, to say the least, rather HUMBLY slow!!! Thats on a good shot.

Some pick it up to some degree rather fast, but really grasping the concept and executing it much better then they start out doing is tough. Its usually where I see the local folks here turn cheek to shooting sticks and go back to wheels or quit all together. Thats a decision every individual will have to make on their own. I hate to see anything happen that would change their desire to shoot how they want but some just simply dont have it.

The other thing folks get IMHO wrapped around the axil on is shooting and hitting something. Larry Yien helped me cure some target panic I had a couple years back on one of the chat rooms. At that point I was ready to sell all my bowhunting gear and give it up all together I was so ticked. Thats after shooting my first dall ram and missing a grizzly the next morning that should have been a chip shot! (not to mention I reaked like dead sheep after a full afternoon of packing that ram off the mountian the day before). Needless to say I was steaming mad and laughing at myself for the predicament I found myself in. For some stupid reason I walked into the alder thicket after this bear. (btw it was a very very good bear for interior alaska) No backup, my wife trying to watch with my spotting scope, and myself having no clue where that bear went. Just to give you a visual. Find the nastiest thicket you have 8-10ft high. Make trails through it 4 ft high with nothing but bear crap everywhere and some of the bushes completely nocked over and/or torn apart. You know their is a bear their fattening up for dinner and you smell as sweet as fresh dall sheep meat! After that experience I was pretty choked up about shooting and bowhunting all together. Over the course of the winter and the following spring I managed to rid myself of the dreaded TP. Larry' s advice was simple enough and I have heard and read it from other great shots since. Shoot at a bale, eyes closed, in my case for 2 or 3 weeks until I reprogrammed my shooting. YOU HAVE TO LET AN ARROW FLY or it wont work. You MUST! Thats how it worked in a nutshell. I' ll tell you, come that fall I could have split a hair of a rams back a lot longer then I could ever imagine shooting at a game animal with ANY bow! I have since found myself shooting more often for form then for accuracy. Sounds odd but like everyone else is saying here, you do your part, the bow will do its (granted you have the bow tuned and the right spine arrow coming out of it), the arrow has no choice but to hit the mark or very very close to it! Its really that simple.

Shooting well is also a mindset. Talking to a bowyer the other day who hasnt missed in a good number of years. He says when he goes to shoot, he knows the animal is dead. I was told this about the same time I had my TP disease and since have changed my way of thinking when it comes to the killing part of hunting. When my arrow flys, I KNOW that animal is dead before the arrow impacts that critter. Sure I go through the shot over and over and shake like a leaf in a hurricane. Thats one of the reasons why we hunt. I' ll even go as far as to question my shot, but when it comes down to it, I know the animal is dead. Now I do still mm mmm mmmiss! Well on grouse anyways. (that is my true passion when it comes to hunting, grouse, it always has been and always will be!) After awhile you' ll hit a point where when your arrow flys, It WILL hit its mark! Everything in due time.

Last but not least. Like I said in my first post. I really cant give you a good reason to stick it out and enjoy shooting a traditional bow. You have to WANT to do it YOURSELF! I' ve tried to help out to many people up here that come to me for help that really dont want it. They want instant gratification and instant robin hood status quo or they quit. Thats their decision. No amount of pressure or amount of ignoring them works. Some of them are some great friends I have watched sell bows all together and get out of the world of bowhunting. They had a great desire to go out with me but when they found out how much work, time, and $$$ can go into the sport of bowhunting, not ot menmtion patience, they just plain ole quit. I am glad they stuck it out with the fly fishing side cuz I really did need a good fishing partner at the time. Now I am back to where I was. He has since been stationed to the east coast. I am back to teaching 2 new guys to the sport of shooting stickbows and fly fishing. What fun it is, the cycle which seems to restart itself every few years. Stick it out if you choose to put the dedication its going to take to be a successful traditional bowhunter and you will be rewarded 200 fold then what the average bowhunter will ever experience. But make sure that decision is yours and only yours! Their is enuf of us on here that can help you through the process as best we can. Some are much better at it then others (myself at the bottom of that very very long list if I have even made it that far). Dont expect instant success. one day something will just click. That something maybe small. Be it your release, bow hand, bow arm, bh. It happens, and then you' ll kick yourself for how easy it was, then on to the next hurdle. Without someone looking over your shoulder their is going to be speed bumps and maybe some road blocks. You' ll have to work through them and hopefully we can give you a hand, if you so desire to stick it out. The ball' s in your court, this is your game!