you got that right!!!! And I have never heard of any one but grouse now, to start ****, back out there plug. Why would you? you seat it so the nose and shelf are in contact but, not enough to force the two together. in other words as soon as it stops turning, do not force any more. As SL said leaving it backed off would allow the gasses to start to escape.

Grouse is a salesman, he is not one of us, as a outdoorsman. he stays on top of a product like any good salesman should. any one that thinks otherwise, is just one of the sheeple. He has bragged over at doug's of how Knight flew him in to check out their new facility and to discuss their product line and spent the day with the owner and employees at the randge, and out to dinner. You think they would do that for us?

so, any chance he can, he tries to jump on a newbie's side to draw him in for some future purchase, then reccommend his pet products. Only reason he is on this forum, and why he gets so pissed when someone points it out.

I have been trying to avoid him since we where banned but, he keeps trying to start ****, so?