All I know I recieved mine last week. Took it to the woods by the archery club and was on the ground next to some low lying braches from some trees. First I wore the suit and asked my dad his opinion then he put it on so I could see. At 30 yds it did everything Aussi-guy and Matt/PA said. Broken up outline. No dark blob out. The leaves are in prime colors here in Michigan, and it works! All I know I havn' t used it in hunting situations yet but real soon. My Vaction in S.E Ohio is for the first of Nov for the first real test. I have no fear about it not working. Even hanging in my maple tree in the back yard it works. Its all about breaking the outline up. For those of you not sure if you want to try it, like mentioned before there is a 100% money back if you don' t see more game. What other camo company does that? I beleive you won' t be sorry........


James D.