We can all say maybe the poster(Bigdaddy) made a bad shot, which i doubt! take a look at Slowriders experience with the same bullet on a recovered deer. 2 kill shots with no pass through.let's be realistic about this, if those deer had been shot with a XTP,deep curl, barnes, lehigh or even a full bore lead metplate style bullet, i can about assure you the bullets would have passed through and even if the deer didn't go down immediately, there would have been a good blood trail.if folks feel they must use a PB, at least use the flat point bullets offered by PB and not the hollow point lead, which have no way to control expansion and leads to the problems.