I have taken 3 deer in the past 3 years with a 295 grain PB, and 80 grains of Loose 777. 2 of them dropped in their tracks, and the other one didnt go over 25 yards and piled up. Maybe its the bullet, maybe not. Wont ever know for sure unless I can find tht deer, and I am 99% sure that he crossed the river and someone shot it. Like I said, I went and talked to the landowner, and he told me that no one was hunting over there today, well then who the hell wasshooting over there?