Earlier this year I ordered both the orange discs and the full jacketed red disc. I ordered the pliers for the primers on the full jacket discs. I ordered a Knight cap. I waited quite awhile and finally called them. They told me they were waiting on the cap to get there. I about had a heart attack when I saw what they are charging for the discs. That's my only experience with these new people. I know when Tony Knight had it I got top notch CS. I sure hope they can turn it around.