I didn't think you got points for does. Oh well. I did see an 8 pointer yesterday evening that had not shown up on any of my cameras...nice buck! Bigger than anything I have on camera. Looked to be a clean 8, but was 150 yards away...could have some stickers. Almost all the bucks on this smallish city limits property do have some mess. Won't be able to hunt today, and will be out of town (in IL of all places, unable to hunt, of course) until late Saturday night. Plan to get back at it next Monday. Been seeing good sign on one of my other properties as well. Hope to be putting some bone down in the near future.