I tried alot and borrowed some friends to check them out too. Man, do yourself a favor and combine comfort and safety and get yourself a tree lounge. You will end up useing it for all your hunting seasons. Heck I even use it just to get away from the wife when I go napping, I mean scouting, preseason. LOL Seriously, it' s the only stand I' ve ever used where you put your safety harness on before you step up into the stand. Now go start testing.