yeah now Wakeman has jumped in and is saying that you can shoot bh209 in a plunger gun, that its safe.

Originally Posted By: bigblock455
c roy, BH209 is not recommended in plunger style rifles. Some have tried it and ended up pulling primers out of their foreheads due to the pressure it makes. Don't try it, its not worth risking an eye over. There are plenty of affordable muzzle loaders on the market that will shoot BH209 and safely.



There is no basis for this wrongful comment. Triple Se7en makes the same or greater pressure as Blackhorn 209 in loose powder form, sometimes markedly greater pressure with pellets. If this comment had any basis in reality, those with pull-**** actions would have been pulling 209 primers out of their foreheads for the last nine years courtesy of Triple Se7en.

None of this is any excuse not to wear eye protection when shooting any firearm. 209 primers don't go anywhere, the reason the once-common three-way breechplugs came with 209 de-primers so you could get them out.

Blackhorn 209 is harder to ignite than organic BP or Pyrodex, and as a result is safer to handle, use, and store. The only reason not to use it in a pull-**** or open action is ignition-- for positive ignition, you'll likely need to open the flash hole.

As for who uses Blackhorn 209 in an MK-85, I can tell you that Tony Knight does. He hasn't been afflicted by any 209 primer launching, and I don't know of anyone who has regardless of black powder substitute.
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