All I know is it was posts from people like Sabotloader,Cayugad,Semisane and others on this forum that got me to join this forum. If you were to read all 67 pages of posts you would see that they have gave us all some good information and have saved some of us a bunch of time and money in testing of new and old products over the years.(How they come up with the test products just dont matter to me) So all I can say is THANK YOU for share your knowledge with us.