I think "everyone" needs to sweep their own back porch before they go pointing their finger at anyone. To me it is OK to debate opinions feverishly and is the American way and our right not to agree but attacks on anyone's personal character on a internet forum exposes immaturity in the attacker. If I do it it exposes immaturity in me. So what if someone pushes a product because they receive free products. Like SL says I am a grown man and can make my own conclusions and if the Admn here doesn't care then what is it hurting me and why should I care. It isn't costing me any extra money or sleep. I love the debates because I can learn from them but the personal attacks turn into a lot of BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH to me and I usually don't waste much of my time on them.