The last thought I intend to inject into this thread is simply this. On the barrel of almost all the muzzle-loaders their manufactures stamp an instruction that the shooter should read the guns manual before using it. In none of the half dozen I have downloaded and have on file do the manufactures advocate the use of more than 100 grains of granular powder. In fact they all say that the most accurate loads for their guns are between 70 and 90 grains. They are somewhat vague as to projectile weight but a phone call to their customer service departments easily clarifies their position.

In speaking with several of the manufacturer’s spokespeople I have been assured that the manuals were formulated after extensive testing and have been fully vetted by their legal departments for the accuracy of their content.

I am fully cognoscente of the fact that it is necessary for all of us to work up loads for our guns but I for one would never do so outside of the guidelines set forth in the guns manual. If I ever felt compelled to do so I would first contact the guns maker for advise before doing anything. A word of warning. If one were to intentionally exceeds the recommended load for their gun and they or anyone else were to sustain an injury as the result of doing so I doubt that they have an avenue of legal recourse open to them.

I can only assume that the author of this thread believes that most or us other members of this forum either do not possess the manuals for our guns or are incapable of comprehending their content. He seems to feel that we are somewhat obligated to seek guidance from him. He also advocates that gun manufactures take steps that they all have done for years.

P.S. If anyone possesses a plunger type in-line that they feel would be dangerous to shoot in its present configuration please send it to me. I know that I would have no problem finding a good home for it.