By the way, That's a great rifle at a terrific price. I have one I built from a kit over 20 years ago. I shoot 370 grain Maxi Balls with 83 grains fffg Goex. It drops about 4 inches or so at 75 yards. I've taken a number of deer at that range. I never tried to take a shot at a deer any farther away than that. That's the only problem I have with the rifle, the range. Beside the heavy lead projectile, the effective range also has a lot to do with the fact that it only has open sights on it. I was so amazed at how well my 1:48 inch twist .54 caliber barrel shot sabots that I need to take the rest of my rifles with a 1:48 inch twist barrel, including my Hawkins, and try sabots in them.