dont know what everyone has against spikes, but i always see 1-2 spikes every year, and 3 to 4 shooter 8+"s on our property. we took 2 eights, and an 11 point last year and seen 3 spikes, 2 4pointers, and a bunch of 6 points. This year so far cams show pretty much the same 4 8's a few 4-6, and 1 spike so far. Give them time.....