I have always been a finger shooter and the past two seasons I took 14 deer with a Reflex Caribou[65lbs 525 gr arrow 197fps 45 ft lbs KE shooting fingers]. I do not always get pass thrus with this set up so I went to a Hoyt Ultratec[65lbs 430 gr arrow 265fps 67 ft lbs KE using a release] . After using the Hoyt I have had four shots all pass thrus and all deer recovered quick. Needless to say I am hooked on the speed and the release . Lets face it a quick humane kill SHOULD be what we are all after. I am going to sell the Reflex Caribou ans buy another bow as I like to shoot year around in the back yard and I take my hunting real serious and always keep a back up bow. Heard of a fellow who damaged his bow on an out of state trip and had to set out a week once so I don' t take chances. I was looking at the Mathews Icon before buying the Ultratec and was wanting to stay in the 37-38 inch a to a . Don' t get me wrong the Ultratec does everything I want it to do but I don' t have my head in the sand so far as to believe they are the only people who make good bows. I don' t want to get into the Ford/Chevy thing either HAHA. Any ideas on another buy around 37 inches??