I am still using my 2006 summit and its still as good as the day I bought it other than the paint peeling off , but thats a simple fix with some flat paint . Very comfortable , Trust me I have put many hrs of sleep in it from 4:30 am until legal shooting time . it packs up pretty quite but its big because it doesnt pack flat . less than 16# and super stable in the tree , Some of the newer lone wolfs were made over seas, cheap hardware etc , my understanding is there made back in the US now and are better quality . Summit for me though its been one hell of a climber