I went back to a Kwickee. I mounted an extra bracket on my hand climber that puts the arrows real handy and yet out of the way. If I' m hunting from something else I have a screw in bracket I stick in the tree to put the arrows handy. I have one of the belts that goes around the tree but usually just use a couple screw in bowholders to hang my pack(whether it' s my backpack or waist/fanny pack) and binos from. I have a little ditty bag hanging on the other side of my hand climber that I keep a bottle of water in and my range finder goes on top of that. Grunt calls go around my neck and inside my shirt.