Good info. I have had real good success with the Buck Jam in apple flavor. Maybe I'll do like you suggested and try a "real" mineral lick instead of just the Caine. One of two of my sites are within 10ft of a trail, the other ones I know are in prime deer areas and are maybe 25-30 ft from trails. Its frustrating when I hear others say they have 2' holes where they put their licks out at and i just have a few tracks in mine. What other minerals do you use besides the caine or is it self made recipe? I think im going to try the corn and buck jam mix next week just so i can get some pics and then start experimenting again