Gunplummer, it sounds like you got it a lot rougher there then we do here. I married into a family with lots of farm land. They did not hunt so I have the run of the place. I am very lucky. If I had to hunt public land I would not get my rifle out, to dangerous. As a kid we always had a place to hunt. In 1997 our spot was sold and we had no where to go until 2000. It has become more of a money maker for some than a hobby. So the sport attracted a lot of people that would never have been interested in hunting if it were not for the money. There are still good guys out there.