Why do you keep coming back with more and more BS scenarios that are nothing like we are talking about? If it's to increase your post count, you're doing a good job of it, but it appears that no matter what anyone posts on this thread you are going to object to it because it differs with yours. Then you have the nerve to say: "you hunt your way and you let others hunt their way"! The scenarios you keep presenting are not within a small confined space where the animal has "NO" possibility of escape. All the others you mention are free ranging animals and, although some may be easier to hunt than others, they are still able to go wherever and whenever they choose, unlike "shooting" an animal in an escape-proof pen for a fee, which is what what we are talking about in this thread. Thus, it appears you just want to argue for arguments sake, rather than keeping the thread to it's original intent and focus. I've said all I will say and you can come up with some other goofy argument to justify this canned shooting, but it ain't gonna fly around here!!! IMHO these canned shoots are very detrimental to the future of legitimate hunting when those on the fence are shown videos of the slaughter and told that is what hunting is when they don't know any better. Those are the folks we need to worry about and not the small percentage of antis that are against everything!