Actually you are only partially right. Zeiss conquest 4.5-14x have 3.5" of eye relief, at any magnification. Leupolds of the same power vary from 3.6"-4.5"+. Reason I dont list 5", when you go back to the vari-x models, they were a little less. Either way you cut it, the leupolds eye relief varies alot, as do nikons, as you crank up the power. Zeiss, and other german brands have a fixed eye relief. I prefer to have consistancy, and not have to adjust where I hold my head for different powers. I like my two leupolds, but I really like the conquest 3-9x on my wife's gun. At the range last week, played around, to see how forgiving the eye relief was, eye box, etc. Found the leupold to be no better, and had over an inch swing in relief. Kind of annoying once you start comparing. I still like my vari-x models, but the day may come when Zeiss gets put on them, or swaros. Now you want to see lousy eye relief, check out my simmons whitetail classic. Thank god its on a 30-06 and not my RUM.