So I went to the academy store and started talking to the guy and asked him if he knew of a used bow. Hehad a used mathews q2 with ateam extreme sight, a360 stripe rest a stabilizer and a bow wrist strap for mesas than the new stinger not much but sill a little. He let me shoot it and set the length and everything for me. 400 with future adjustments. String is in decent shape abcs he is gonna make a 3d dual color strong for it when I need a new one for price of sting materials. Decent buy? He knows his stuff and was helping me shoot it. Plus we are gonna go hunt some pigs when he thinks I an ready.