thanks fer the replys guys , it dose seem the snake is as good as gone , but as suggested i think i will keep it for rainy day hunts , a golden rule a snake a day keeps the rust away ,and thats about it , the only reason i bought that snake in the grass is i didnt want to wack the crown did that done that and had to retire good iron , but that was before re crowning as invented dang i feel old lol