well guys sorry i havent been on in a while. have had job interviews and helping my dad work. i havent been out since tues and there were 4 people set up all around me i could physically see 2 of them. so when no birds gobbled and i thought they should have flown down by. i got up and walked within 50yds of both of them right to my jeep. birds are not there anymore they are on a farm about 3/4 mile away and it just happens to be my gpas land(lol). so im going after them sat morning.