I shoot TSS 98's which are 3" loads and get 307 in 10"@ 40 yards. This is easily a 65 yard plus combo. Before I started shooting the TSS I was shooting 3.5" Hevi-13 2.25 oz. #6. I was getting about 225 hits in a 10" @ 40. I had taken birds out to 47 yards with that combo cleanly and would highly recommend that combo. If you hand load though you cannot beat TSS!