Pyrodex in the renegade and wolverine, shoot conicals in both. used 777 for quite awhile in the Triumph, crud ring was terrible, switched to Bh209. for overall performance in modern inlines, BH 209 is the ticket. sidelocks and plunger style rifles, it's pyrodex all the way.i am using a 15 yr old jug of pyrodex and the POI is the same as the new jug i recently bought.only change i might make is going to pyrodex P when i run out the standard pyrodex. Ray