Thanks Jay. Well did a lot of driving today, checked a lot of areas where i always see birds and sign. I found absolutely nothing!!! Was thinking just the late start to spring was keeping them hidden, but now really starting to think that they just aren't there. Every one i talk to in the area is seeing hardly anything. It's been getting harder every year and this is looking to be the worste yet. I have my one spot where i put my trail cam, which i'll be checking tomorrow and a spot about an hour and a half away that i haven't checked yet. Those 2 spots are lookin to be my only hope right now. But eaven with the grim outlook I can't wait for the season! Only 11 more days!!!!! Gotta feeling the wife will really be ticked at me by the end of this one! I will spend every second I possibley can chasin em down!!