Man, where I'm hunting in a couple of weeks, my buddy guiding for a friend, put him on one big ol trophy Osceola. Rough is over 11 1/2" beard, around 20#s weight, and spurs 1 3/4". Dang!! That is a Hoss. Shot a couple of hours ago. That's in the record books somewhere. I'm defintely pumped to get down there.