Originally Posted by sabotloader

Ray, since I am not a Barnes fan, i really can not keep straight what bullets are what bullet in their line. I know I shot 300 grain Expanders ( I think they were expanders) at one time and never had a problem with them at all.

Here is a picture of whay i used way back then... I still have a couple left...



But when you read through some of the posts on the different ML sights every once and awhile some one mentions a Barnes penciling on a close range shot on the thin skinned whitetail, I have no idea which model that might be...



You know when I person gets comfortable and gains confidence in the bullet they are using it is very difficult to change... It surely was for me, but now that I have made the switch to the Lehigh - I never look back. When you see what occurs inside and the fact the bullet changes from a hollow point to a blunt Kieth Nose as it passes through the organs causing additional damage - it is tremendous. And to be sure so does the Barnes and the Nosler, but from what I have observed the shock and trama that an animal feels is probably more than I was getting with the Noslers. My feeling has always been if you can create enough immediate shock to the animal you can often over-ride the flight response of the animal. If you can make it go into immediate shock you have won the battle and often the war.

Europeans routinely hunt with rifles of much smaller caliber than we do and with this type of bullet you can do that yet still harvest cleanly and humainly....

Like I said we all develope our favorites and really have a difficult time wth change, anyway I do... but if we do not step out there and try new stuff, we would all still be shooting flintlocks...