Wow, come back after a month and you're still arguing. Ok, instead, what is a good idea if ya got a Remington that won't do better than 2" @ 100yds or 6" at 200 yds.? I love the way my Rems feel in hand especially my 700 sps youth in 243. Just don't shoot for nothing. Thinking of sending it down to Krieger barrels 20 mi. away and tell them to put a barrel on it. I want 18" and light. But then I got 1,100 in it without scope. Sell it for 275 for a Savage that goes 5.5 lbs. It drives me nuts.