Originally Posted by sproulman

you have been fair in past,not like KNOTHEAD rsb ,so i wont get smart with you.

usp made up petition. i am LIFE MEMBER of usp. we started the usp with don clemmer as founder around 1983.
sadly don died last year,real nice guy that was BOOED with me at bucktail high school by farmers,dcnr,pgc ,qdma,audobon WANNABEES.

i dont agree with everything usp wants. i am big AR fan ,they are not.
we have very few deer here in western clinton county.i did get 10 point the first day but was only deer we saw.4 gangs hunted about 6 miles by highway and saw 2 doe which they shot 1.
this is in great area on feed.we had MORE BEARS in this area than deer.

rwj, something is wrong and its just to MUCH doe killing.
i agree that forest is not great on feed,the BROWSE.until dcnr cuts the trees that are shading ground, nothing will get much better.

but we are told we can handle 11dpsm. if 100 yds is mile that is used, THATS A LOT OF DEER.
but truth is ,i use my truck speedometer.not DPSM thing.if there is over 10 deer in say 5 miles by highway ,that is lot today.

those same areas held over 20 deer per highway mile.many miles NO DEER,none. no squirreals,grouse,rabbits,turkeys.yes, you could say feed, i say WAY TO MUCH HUNTING.
look at what is happening now.
mentoured thing is joke,adults are shooting the bucks and dont have to use tag.
crews are shooting at ANY buck as long as kids are in crew.

what is kid learning there.butcher shops said,QUOTE SPROUL KIDS DONT EVEN KNOW GUN THEY USED TO GET THE BUCKS.i will let you draw your own conclusion on that one.
all this is putting more pressure on what deer are left.its not allowing the AR to work as good as it could.
i only brought this up that we cant have deer with all pressure etc that is put on what is left.

thats why the doe season HAS to be closed if we want to see the deer come back somewhat.
if not, its going to continue to get worst and license sales go down.dcnr IS AFTER the pgc to merge. why not, with all millions in timber and GAS ,millions of dollars in gas.USP is fighting merging the pgc.strange,hated USP backing the PGC on not merging.
dont think for 1 minute that PGC is not going to make millions on gas.DCNR wants that money and JOBS too.


no way anyone would approve increase in pgc license fees if hunting is not good.
only HUNTINGPA group of wannabees would want it.

sorry i got off a little .rwj,other than your friends over on HUNTINGPA there are not many that LIKE pgc/dcnr/audobon/qdma at this time.petitions are filling up.

you are fair person and so is johnw .
dont let HUNTINGPA group that is ONE SIDED and will chase anyone off that awful forum that in anyway disagrees with the TEAM PLAYER way of thinking.

take care sproul