I agree about used vs NIB. You can find the newer Optima with the QRB for right at $200 in SS and it handles nice. About 3 weeks ago i got a Knight DISC SS 45cal NIB for just $249 and i could have gotten another Elite for the same price in 45 or 50cal.

He still has a blued Elite 45 for $249 and an Original blued 50cal for $199. SportsmansGuide still has Vision 50cal SS for $219 too.