Okay, so I'm going to bring this thread back up. I'm almost done shooting up the box that I ordered. I was wondering if I want to try a different sabot which Crush Rib one do I need to get to use the 300 grain Deep Curls? Is it safe to assume the crush rib sabots will load easier? That's my only complaint is that these things with the short black sabots are very hard to load in one of the muzzle loaders I tried them in. I like how these shoot, I love the price, and I love the fact that they shoot to the exact same poi as the Federal Fusion ones, so I can change between the two if I run out of one or the other.