I've learned that if you ask on this forum 98% of the guys are going to suggest Leupold because of the name on the scope. It doesn't matter if you can get a scope that's 10x better for half the price. If you ask on 24hourcampfire, SnipersHide, Opticstalk.com, or one of the many other forums you will find out that while Leupolds aren't horrible, you can get a lot better glass for the money. If you suggest anything other than a Leupold on here, you get told you don't know what you are talking about. So my suggestion is just do your research on more than one forum.