I really have no personal experence with them, but my dads best freind has one in a 270WSM and he regrets buying it, it doesnt shoot compared to his other rifle, a Kimber Montana in a 270, he is really disappointed in it. Also read what Chuck Hawks has to say about them, he is not paid buy the manufactors to review there products, he tells it like it is. All the gun magazine wrighters are paid by the manufactors, you cant beleive what they write, when was the last time you read a reveiw of a firearm by a nationally sindicated publication that said a rifle wasnt any good? They are promoting guns for a benfit of making a profit, not tell the truth.