Thanks for the input. Well I think I'm going to buy one for Elk season bc there are a few spots that a n old outfitter I knew that used to hang a few stand sand kill deer/elk every year. Aspens are just perfect for a climber. I think I'm gonna buy me a few hang-ons summits for whitetail 2011 season. I just dont see the advantages of using a climber in Kansas. I can buy 2 or 3 hangs on for the price of one climber. IDK Thanks