Originally Posted by
Chochy
The big buck have always been in PA, just not with the numbers there are. There's always 1 hiding out somewhere, but now there are more big rack buck in PA.
"The small rack are still getting shot. " - I don't disagree with this statement, however the small buck are less likely to be harvested now, than before the restriction. This is why I state the 3 pt restriction should actually be a 4 pt restriction state wide. There are large buck killed on public land every year. The hunters who are not shooting them aren't putting in the time and effort into hunting for them. You can't expect to walk onto the same plot of woods 100 other guys have already walked through and find bullwinkle right away. Although sometimes it's better to be lucky then good!
i am very active member of USP.they are after doing away with anthler rest.rule no.2 in the lawsuit.i am not.
the reason they feel this way in MY opinion was the pgc felt if it was hard to get buck do to the restrictions on horns, WE WOULD SHOOT A DOE.
look at the video on the site i posted. there is 3 segments.
but the AR in my opinion is working if done right.
is it being done right? no.
5 yr old kids are shown with small bucks and big ones.no TAG is necessary.
do you think the girl in pink is shooting those buck at 21 degrees with sneakers on?no.thats first problem and a FREE tag also.
next, crews driving the deer with KIDS are shooting at any horns they see. they call on radio using SECRET codes that the adult shot the spike buck and a kid should come tag it.
WHAT IS KID LEARNING HERE?
HOW DO YOU FEEL WHEN YOU GO BY RULES AND HUNTERS HAVE WAY OF GETTING AROUND IT?i bet not very good.
to run the AR to make it work ,here is my view.
stop the MENTOURED KIDS program on shooting any buck under 3 points.THE ADULT MUST TAG THE MENTOURED KIDS BUCK WITH HIS TAG.that should get a lot mad at ole sproul as they were getting 2 or more FREE bucks, no taG NECESSARY.
kids 12/16 MUST shoot a buck with 3 points to side.no more DADDY not even looking at points and shooting and saying, JOHNNY COME TAG YOUR SPIKE BUCK.
is this happening,YES.........sad but this is only way i know to stop all this illegal and legal things that are not right.
next make doe permits only for KID .only KID can get doe permit in wmu2g.
if there were lots of deer in WMU2G of pa. i could see different options but from what i see,if rules are not changed, AR is not going to work because too much OUTLAWING is being done.
we are down to about 2dpsm in most of WMU2G.