Arthur, for me it took exactly 2 shots to get a perfect hole after my last set up change. It would' ve been one shot, but I had the cock feather down, and got rest contact on my drop away. Reloaded, paying attention, release, perfect hole.

I' m too cheap to shoot groups. My arrows are numbered, and if I do my part, each of my arrows will shoot to the same point of impact.

To each his own, but this works very very well for this drop away launched carbon flinging release using hunter.

I should mention that this is another thing I chalk up to quality arrows. The ACCs are so well matched, they allow this to happen, as I don' t have to compensate for arrow flaws or paradox to get he best common ground. If one shoots good, the others do as well.