well thanks for the honest opinions......I was actually looking at the redfield 4-12x40. The cheapest place I could find it still was 220 bucks. I went to the local sporting goods stores and they had some nikons. They were around 150-250 bucks. I didn't really care for them that much. They just weren't my pick. The reticle i didn't like, and they didn't have much eye relief. I thought the simmons .44 mag series of scopes were like their top of the line stuff?