can't tell you a lot about them but i carried my kids little 870jr one day this fall shooting cheap wi.sabot slugs and shot this guy at 50 yards he made a small circle and was about to go down but gave him another just to be sure.when i butchered him i could see he did not need the second shot.this little gun has shoot a few turkeys as well
i would not be afraid to part with my 12ga. and use only it
