They almost look like the same sabots that come with the T/C Shockwave bullets which I throw away and use the Harvester CRs. Check Cabela's online, In the bargain cave they have what looks like the same sabot on sale for $6.88/50 from MMP. A few cents more than what you are paying now but if you purchase >$99 you get free shipping. I know you can do that easy Dave.