Just a question. I was looking through the new Natchez catalog, they have pages of refurbished Nikons on sale. Why? Apparenly I am not the only person to have problems out of them. These are all scopes that have been returned to the manufactor for repairs because of defects or poor quality. Last year I went through three, two Buckmasters and one Monarch, and that aint no BS. If you want to find out the durabilty of a scope, put it on your fourwheeler and ride several hundred miles in the rough mountains, it puts a hell of a beating on a scope. Nikons will literally start falling apart. Great optics, but no durability! I personally will never buy another Nikon, if it doesnt say Leupold, you wont see it on my rifles, and I am not talking about the Rifleman series, I wouldnt own one of those. You can buy a VXI for a little more and it is four times the scope. JMO.