The point i was trying to make is.T/C invents and markets the speed breech.CVA jumps on the band wagon with it's clone, what a 1 yr-1 1/2 ? later knowing the growing number of people who are shooting BH209.and when CVA introduces it's clone all the while MD is carrying on about how much better it is than the T/C speed breech and how it's offered on the wolf. again you won't hear me say anything like CVA'S are junk ETC. i believe they build a quality rifle now! but if your going to copy something, knowing the powders people are using make it work for all those powders. apparently even though they had more time to do so they still didn't get it right.i still stand by my statement.T/C speed breeches work when the correct primer and cleaning is performed.that also goes for non speed breeches like the on used in the omega.