Well, I am now home from my trips from Oregon and Michigan and must say I had I great time on both. Thanks to Biglead' s knowledge of the birds in Oregon I was able to harvest several band-tails, blue and ruffed grouse and mountain quail -- all first, while at the same time witness great dog work. I could write a book on the entire trip. In addition to the great bird hunting, I also saw bears (adult and cubs), black-tailed deer, trophy bull elk and a behemoth of a bobcat. All of this was concluded with great hospitality, fine food (bear, birds and fish), beautiful country and a new friendship. I will return to Oregon.