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Old 12-05-2010 | 10:11 AM
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hometheaterman
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Originally Posted by bigcountry
Your full of it when you say, "friends or family", but do not own or extensively test out said "product".
Most of what you claim I'm full of it on, I've actually owned.

I've actually owned a Leupold VX-I and had plenty of experience with it as well as several other similar priced scopes to compare it to. I've actually owned a second VX-I that was broken when I bought it. I got it fixed from Leupold, compared the glass to the first one and saw it was no better. I sold this one without ever mounting it, but I did experience the glass in it and see it was still not up to par with other scopes in that price range. I also got to see first hand how it went from working great and being on a friends gun that shot great group one day, to not even being on target the next. I got to see him try to dial it back in only to see it move every shot. He was so fed up to me he sold it to me cheap. I've also owned a Leupold Vari-X II which I also felt the same about the glass. However, I never mounted this one either so I can't comment on how it functioned. The guy I sold it to says it works great, but that doesn't make up for the fact that the glass is still sub par compared to other scopes in it's price range. Not sure how much more you want me to test it other than testing out the glass in daylight as well as low light. Testing out the tracking, and repeatability on it. Doing a drop test, and seeing how long they hold up in the field. What further testing would you like me to perform?

The Browning BAR, I've not gotten it to shoot any better than 1.5" groups and often times 2" groups with ammo it likes. I've shot it, I've had others that are better shots than me shoot it, and I've tried a ton of ammo along with many suggestions I read online. Only to have it shoot exactly the same for all of us. It's a great deer gun, and is a great quality rifle, however, good accuracy for target shooting it doesn't have.

Those are basically the products you claim I bash, and I've had experience owning and using all of them. I have friends that also own the same products, and theirs are no better. It's not like I'm just going off of how theirs performs. It's when the product I own doesn't perform, so I compare it to a friends to see if the one I got was maybe a lemon. Then seeing that theirs is no better leads me to the conclusion that it's probably how the majority of them. I don't see how owning them and experiencing the problems first hand, as well as seeing others experience the problems makes me inexperienced in it.

Can you honestly say that the VX-I scope are better than others in that price range? If so what makes them better?

Maybe you didn't say they all were sub moa, but you did say that all you owned shot better than 1.5" groups. So what kind of groups do you get from yours?
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