you know, I didnt even consider the moon phase, you bring up a good point with that. The fishing has slowly starting picking back up so maybe that moon phase was causing them to shut down some. I am about to head out for lunch for about 45 min with a jig and a fluke to see if I can't catch a few more. You mentioned it in another post and I think you were right when you said that you thought the bass school up together in the colder months. When I have caught them, they have all been grouped fairly close together. Good info and insights from you as usual Chuck, thanks!